Star Trek : Review

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So ..

Yeah, I went to see the thing. Well .. actually I went to see the newest X-men flick but my co-pilot and I misread the start time by an hour.

So we decided to see the Trek flick since it had a start time of 10 minutes from our arrival.

Anyway ...

I give it a 'B'.

The camera work, the effect work, the character integration and the storyline were all delivered in the usual Star Trek fashion, there were no real surprises, no real leaps in understanding of the beginnings of the main crew members.

The menace of the movie and the premise of the menace ( hehe that rhymes ) have both been done .. MANY times even in the Star Trek series itself so there was no real leap there.

The interaction of the main crew was typical Hollywood tinkering to get the franchise some new life from a new generation of movie goers. It had a hip taste to it, an underlying sex appeal was palpable in all the main crew.


I'll not go into detail about the film, its only been out a few days and some of you likely have not seen it yet.



Bottom line :

Story line : B

Acting: B

SFX : B+

Character selection : A



I feel that because this movie is obviously an attempt to restart the franchise that the producers selected a good mixture for the main crew.

Kirk did well .. a little overblown on the "bad boy" to start but he evened his oddness out as the movie progressed.

Basically if I were to have met him in a bar with that same attitude I would have face pounded him as well.... he was that much of a dick.

Spock: Best choice of character for this all important role.

Mainly because the actor has vast face recognition from his successful role in the Hero Tv series.



All in all ... there was no real commanding performance from the characters.


But then again .. it is Star TreK .. we're not expecting Shakespeare from it.





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SlimSkeeter

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Worth the $10/ticket, then?

I'm debating on which one to see first (Star Trek v X-men). Overall, star trek movies lack the kind of action I like (people fighting instead of ships blowing the hell out of each other) so I am still leaning towards X-Men first.

I'm still a geek, though, so I do fully intend to see star trek. Thanks for the review, and if you hit X-men anytime soon I hope you follow it up with a review of that.
 

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Worth the $10/ticket, then?

I'm debating on which one to see first (Star Trek v X-men). Overall, star trek movies lack the kind of action I like (people fighting instead of ships blowing the hell out of each other) so I am still leaning towards X-Men first.

I'm still a geek, though, so I do fully intend to see star trek. Thanks for the review, and if you hit X-men anytime soon I hope you follow it up with a review of that.
Yes, I'd say it was worth the ticket price.
 

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also ..

The onion hit it on the head, you kinda have to read between the humor lines to see the message.


[video=youtube;02LgdXVkXgM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM&feature=haxa_popt00us0b[/video]
 

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Ahhh .. you're one of 'those'.

I guess there is more validity to the onion's news spoofs than meets the eye.

Get with the times man .. The series was dead in the water, it either needed to be killed off and buried or it needed new blood.

It got the new blood .. but kept the same tired ass Star Trek storyline.

I'm disappointed mainly because people are giving it such high marks for originality while with a little research they could simple see that the thing has been done .. to death.

And please ... Old ass Spock from the future .. woooooo .. what a stretch .. what a twist.

The series was better off left to die and fade away.


Fucking lame.
 

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Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a die-hard Star Trek fan. For chrissake, I carried a Type II phaser pistol throughout my deployment. But I'm also a fan of letting go of Trek. The best ending for it, especially the Classic series, was the end of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Captain Kirk gives his last course heading, "Second star to the left. And straight on 'till morning," and the good ship and crew sail off into the sunset. END. Period. No ifs, ands or buts.

Every time they drag the old crew back out into the mix, I get more and more disappointed. First they dragged Scotty back, but that actually worked in Relics. Then they dragged Spock back in Unification, which didn't work as well, then they dragged Kirk back just to show everyone, in visceral detail just how he dies, which didn't work at all. For fuck's sake, leave the old crew alone. They're done. I wanted to remember Kirk on the bridge of the Enterprise-A with that devil-may-care smirk on his face, not bleeding in some forgotten, dusty canyon. That's just damn depressing.

Star Trek is dead. Its been dead since Gene Roddenberry died. Trek stopped being a sociopolitical look at society and the human condition and started being a weak, hackneyed sci-fi/fantasy show that catered to the lowest common denominator. By that, I mean those faggots who watch fantasy shows for the fake electronic light shows and totally implausible storylines and think Darth Vader is cool.

Rick Berman, Brannon Braga and now J.J. Abrams are repeatedly dragging Star Trek back to make money, not to say anything about the politics of our time, not to say anything about today's society, but to make a quick buck. Star Trek never was about the Klingons and the Romulans and the Cardassians and all those aliens, and spaceships fighting and phasers and photon torpedoes, it was about the United States, the Soviet Union (Praxis? Chernobyl? Come on, can it get any more obvious?!) and humans in general. It was also a more hopeful, brighter look at the future than any other I've seen.

Star Trek is dead. Please, let it rest in peace. Stop bringing this shit back.
 

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I made it to the destruction of the U.S.S. Kelvin and the death of Lieutenant George Kirk before my eye started twitching. And it hasn't stopped since.

Star Trek is dead. Let it die. Please. Please. Please. Let Star Trek die in peace.
 

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I'm not a die-hard fan, but I am a Star Trek fan and am always happy to see a new movie or TV series.

I remember watching the original series when I was a kid, and I don't mean reruns, but the real deal.

There is a sense of excitement when you can get another glimpse of your favorite cast of characters, even if portrayed by someone else.

A few has-bin scenes from the original crew only adds to the 'awe' except the one when they killed off Capt. Kirk which was pitiful.

GO STAR TREK GO!
 

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I sure liked the movie. It wasn't the best thing to watch but star trek seem like it got all the old stuff pretty much.
 

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THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF SPOILERS..READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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In The Before Time

The movie opens with the USS George Kirk investigating a space "lighting storm". Emerging from the storm is a Romulan mining ship from 150 years in the future. Remember this is a mining ship, not a military vessel. It's crewed by SPACE MINERS. A short fight ensues the captain of the good guys ship shuttles over to the mining vessel where, after having some fancy holographs thrown at him, he is IMPALED BY A TRIDENT. Before the Federation ship can be destroyed 800 are able to escape on shuttle craft. Of course the filmmakers gloss over the fact that the shuttle craft have no warp drive. How were they rescued? And why didn't the Romulan ship destroy them all? Was it so badly damaged from the collision? If so how does a ship from the future get repairs? It's not like they can just jet over to Mos Eisley for some body work.
The Childhood Years

It would be a pretty short, but infinitely better, movie if the shuttle crafts had just been picked off by the space miners. Unfortunately, they somehow made it to safety, which leads to a painful childhood Kirk scene. We get that he's rebellious, but also suicidal? And these traits are what Starfleet is looking for in their starship captain aptitude test?
The Academy

Flash forward another dozen years or so: Kirk is now drunken womanizer with no real aspirations. Yet, he conveniently still lives near a Starfleet base and frequently visits bars populated by Starfleet cadets. It's almost pathetic. Like he's waiting for someone to notice him. Eventually Captain Pike recognizes him because he wrote his Starfleet dissertation on the events that killed Kirk's dad. Not only does he recognize Kirk, but he invites him to join Starfleet Academey. This isn't some community college. It's FRIGGIN' STARFLEET ACADEMY. It's like Harvard, West Point, and Google all rolled into one. And Kirk doesn't even have to send an application or references or write a cheesy essay. It's no wonder that everyone hates him. Is that another quality that Starfleet looks for in its captains?
Kobayashi Maru

We all know from Star Trek II that Kirk cheated to "win" the Kobayashi Maru. Basically he hacked (oh come on) the test and made it passable. We actually get to see that scene play out and it's really quite painful. Kirk is completely arrogant and just looks pathetic. I bet he uses an aimbot when playing Counter-Strike. That fucker.
Graduation

Kirk is pretty close to being expelled, but thankfully there is a distress call from Vulcan. The Starfleet Generals must have just finished a two day binge of Police Academy movies, because they get the brilliant idea of sending the cadets to deal with threat. Conveniently, there are undermanned starships just sitting in space dock, including the brand new Enterprise. Logically (for once), Kirk isn't assigned to a ship, but thanks to some quick thinking by Bones he is infected with a strange disease and allowed on board. That's right, there is a Starfleet regulation that allows a doctor (not even the head doctor) to bring a patient infected with a potentially contagious disease on board during a crisis situation.
On The Road

As all the other ships take off for Vulcan, The Enterprise lags behind as young Sulu forgets to disengage the "parking break." The flagship of the Federation has a pilot that is so green he doesn't even know how to go to warp. Is this really the guy you want driving your ship as you head into an unknown situation?
And seriously, Kirk is the only one who figures out what's going on? PIKE WROTE A FUCKING THESIS PAPER ON THE ORIGINAL EVENT AND SPOCK IS A WALKING WIKIPEDIA. But no one, only Kirk figures it out. Even after they all agree, they still don't warn the ships ahead of them or do anything different. And guys it's not a "trap" when the other ship doesn't give a shit if you show up or not. It's not like the mining ship knew exactly where they Starfleet ships would appear and had a photon torpedo storm waiting. They were stuck in a fixed orbit over the planet using the drill thingy.
This kills me about time travel in movies and TV. Why didn't Nero team up with Future Spock and just save Romulus this time around. They had a 125 year head start. This time they could make sure that Young Spock would be waiting with the red matter well in advance of the supernova hitting Romulus.


A couple other points here:
  • Would the debris field from six destroyed starships really be that thick? If that section of space was orange juice it would have been labeled extra pulp.
  • Did no one from Vulcan bother to send an updated distress call with some details of what was going on. I know, I know: communications were blocked, but are there no shuttles? Couldn't someone have just warped a few parsecs and then sent a message?
  • Kirk made the connection that this was related to his dad's death because of the similar "lighting storm". But wasn't that storm caused by the wormhole, not the Romulan ship? Why was the same anomaly detected near Vulcan?
  • Where the fuck was the Romulan ship the last 25 years? Did they just hang out near the wormhole waiting for Spock? How did they even know Spock would come through? Was there an astrophysicist on the crew of the SPACE MINING VESSEL?
  • Was this crew of SPACE MINERS so hell bent on vengeance that they all just willing waited 25 years? I guess if they have a holodeck it can make the wait bearable...
  • Did Starfleet not send another ship to investigate the anomaly?
Are We There Yet

After about a fifteen minute trip the Enterprise arrives at Vulcan and is quickly disabled. Right before Emperor Nero goes for the kill shot he pulls back, because he RECOGNIZES THE ENTERPRISE! I guess with 25 years to kill you can read a lot about Spock, but that's assuming the computers on his SPACE MINING SHIP already have that info.
Pike is forced to shuttle over to the enemy, because space drill blocks transporters and communications when enabled - AS A SIDE EFFECT, not by design. If I'm the head of a space mining company 150 years in the future and I need a drill that can go to the center of the planet and someone comes to me with this thing, isn't the fact that it inadvertently blocks communications and transport a deal breaker? Do they have to knock 20K in gold-pressed latinum off the purchase price because of this?
The brilliant plan that Pike comes up with has Kirk, Sulu and a clearly not going to survive security officer sky jumping off the shuttle (which is probably outside the Vulcan atmosphere) and free falling onto the platform. How about just firing a fucking laser beam at it? Would that have been so hard? Yeah, Nero would be pissed and probably destroy the Enterprise, but that's a pretty fair trade for 8 billion Vulcans.
Predictably, the guy with all the explosives dies after trying to be a hero and deploying his parachute at the last possible moment. (before you comment that this was probably a homage to the original series where the random dude on the away team always dies...I get it). After a SWORD FIGHT Sulu and Kirk fail to destroy the platform and end up falling off the edge only to be saved by Chekov's mad transporter skillz.
Meanwhile...

On the Romulan ship they are preparing the red matter which is a vat of highly unstable and destructive materiel, where one drop can create a blackhole large enough to stop a star that has gone supernova or destroy a planet. They acquired this vat from Spock who was going to use a single drop of it to save Romulus. Why didn't he just bring one drop, instead of a whole fucking keg? That would have been too logical.
The reason the bad guy needed Pike is so that they could extract the code to the Earth defense grid. Oh come on...really? The Earth defense grid is password protected? That's it? Did they at least make the password contain numbers and letters? Plus the Romulan ship has pretty much dispatched all adversaries with ease. They suddenly couldn't get through an archaic (by their standards) defense grid? And why didn't Vulcan have the same setup?
Boom Goes The Dynamite

Spock realizes the planet is about to go boom and is forced to beam down to save the Vulcan elders, because, apparently, they decided a planetary crisis was a good time to have a sacred cave meeting with no access to communications or transporters. Even stranger, Spock's HUMAN mother is with them. Is Spock's mother the biggest wet blanket, ball and chain wife ever? Did Spock's dad try to sneak out for for some good times with the boys and get caught, then was forced to take her with him? I can just imagine the buzzkill when the Spocks enter the cave together. Ugh, he brought her again. Most of you probably didn't catch it, but when Vulcans are getting transported and the cliff collapses killing Spock's mom, one of the Vulcans in the background give a slight fist pump. It's subtle. Also it's convenient that exactly six of them made it out of the cave, since there were only six transporter pads. How great would it have been if seven had made it and they had to tell one of them "we'll get you next time."
This Is Where It Really Falls Apart

Vulcan is gone and Spock now wants to rendezvous with the rest of the fleet. A HIGHLY EMOTIONAL (this is important later) Kirk wants to chase after Nero, who has now has targeted Earth. Why Earth? Didn't he just accomplish his vengeance plan? Spock has Kirk ejected from the ship, where he lands on the ice planet Hoth. Rather then waiting for tauntauns from a nearby Starfleet outpost, Kirk decides it would be a good time for a walk. Is he making the 14 mile trek to the outpost on foot? This is better then just waiting to be picked up? Once again, solid decision making from Kirk. A painful chase scene right from the Phantom Menace/Lucas playbook ensues where Kirk is hunted by some of the native creatures.
Future Spock

Ok, I can buy all the other huge leaps up until this point, but on a deserted ice planet Kirk happens upon Future Spock, who was stranded there by Nero, so he had a front row seat for Vulcan's destruction. Spock apparently knows that there is an outpost on the planet and how to get there, but didn't think to actually go there and try to stop Nero. And why the fuck is there an outpost on this planet? What conceivable reason could they have had?
Wait, It Gets Worse

Spock reveals that he can beam Kirk to the Enterprise, despite not knowing where it is (how could they?) and that it's traveling at warp speed. How does he accomplish this bit of magic? With a fucking formula! That's right. No modifications are needed to the 150 year old transporter technology other then fixing up the code a bit. Scotty, who was conveniently at the outpost, goes with Kirk. First of all if I was Scotty you couldn't drag me off that outpost. You mean I can stay in this nice toasty igloo on a planet completely out of harm's way or I can be the guinea pig for a high risk beam that will likely leave my arm coming out of my forehead and even if I'm lucky enough to survive I'll probably get to witness Earth being destroyed and then die myself when Nero uses his future drilling weapons on my ship. Fuck that, I'm staying here.
Second of all: why the fuck doesn't Spock go? You ready for this? Because he thinks it will be a good bonding experience for Young Spock and Kirk. That's right, Spock risks the fate of Earth, so that the Spock/Kirk bromance can blossom. Wait, get this: for Kirk to succeed, Future Spock tells him he has to become captain of the Enterprise and the best way to do this is to get Young Spock to flip out by bringing up his dead mom. We've already established that Kirk is a pretty big dick, so really this isn't that much of a stretch. The scene would have played out so much better if Spock had said: "To get control of the Enterprise you have to...", then simultaneously Kirk and Spock said "...make Spock cry by ragging on him about his dead mom." Then they high-fived.
The Fight

After another wasted action scene where Scotty gets stuck in a water slide, Kirk and Scotty are captured and brought to the bridge. Why didn't Spock just throw them in the brig? I think even Kirk was surprised; otherwise why did he try to evade the security guys? After a dozen or so "yo mama" jokes Spock finally flips out when Kirk lets loose this gem: "Hey Spock, I think we both have the same lasting image of your mother. The top of her head as she was going down. OH, SNAP!" Spock attacks Kirk, and then decides to step down as captain on his own. Now remember that even though Nero killed Spock's mom and destroyed his homeworld, Spock wasn't going after him. Kirk, whose Dad was also killed by Nero (this fact is now swept under the rug), is gung-ho on a suicide mission to stop Nero. Which one of there two is letting their emotions affect their decisions? If you answered Spock: Hi JJ Abrams, thanks for reading this.
They Kiss And Make Up

Spock runs off to his daddy and they have a heart-to-heart. I'm not sure exactly what was said, since I was trying to burst my ear drums with my soda straw at this point. Spock returns to the bridge and asks for the first officer's job. What a pussy! He just got played by Kirk and now he comes begging for his old job back!
Anyway, they have a new plan to warp into Saturn's belt, then dramatically rise through the space cloud just like in every fan boys wet dream. But then what? Oh, Chekov has figured out a way to beam onto Nero's ship. How fucking timely.
So they're going to beam a whole fucking army on board, right? Just Spock and Kirk? Really? But they'll be double fisting phaser rifles and wearing bandoliers instead of shirts, right? No?
How about this for a better plan: Let's just beam Pike right the fuck out of there, destroy the mining platform with our fricken laser beam, hail Nero and make fun of his dead wife and dead unborn baby so that we can lure him away from Earth and then beam about 400 photon torpedoes over, enjoy the explosion while cranking some Metallica, then go hit the space bar and get some hot green ass? Whose against this plan? Anyone? I didn't think so.
The End...Thankfully

I fucking hate scenes where the good guy has just a handgun and is against fifty bad guys with rifles, but the bad guys can't make a shot for their life and the good guy is running through swarms of bullets making ridicules shots. Don't movie makers play Call of Duty on Xbox Live? It just doesn't work that way.
You can pretty much guess what happens: Kirk rescues Pike, Spock steals back his future ship, destroys the drill and lures Nero after him before engaging in high stakes game of chicken. The resulting collision ignites the GIANT FUCKING VAT of red matter, which should probably engulf the entire milky way galaxy.
Nero's ship is disabled and will soon be destroyed by the ignited red matter and after refusing assistance KIRK OPENS FIRE ON HIM. They should have had Kirk pull on a Judge Dredd helmet and say "I am the law." No one in the Federation was even a little pissed that Kirk didn't capture Nero so he could stand trial - this was virtual street justice.
Aftermath



Kirk receives a medal for his part in the events. Not really sure why. Let's break down what he did:
  • Realized that Nero was attacking Vulcan - Result: no change - they still went with the same plan.
  • Attempted to destroy the mining platform on Vulcan - Result: fail.
  • Took over The Enterprise and went after Nero - Result: success, but only because Chekov figured out a way onto Nero's ship. If Chekov had been about 10 minutes faster and presented his plan why Spock was still in charge don't you think Spock would have turned that ship right around and gone after Nero?
  • Rescued Pike - Result: success, I guess. But they could have just beamed him out of there. Plus it was Spock who did all the dirty work here.
  • Inspired the crew and earned their respect - Result: epic fail. Kirk did everything he could to get rid of Spock, but that wimpy little bitch kept coming back. He sexually harassed Uhura at every turn.
Oh, and wouldn't you be pissed if you were one of the 12k surviving Vulcans and Earth was having a ceremony celebrating Kirk? 8 billion Vulcans just died. Doing the math, the amount of mourning time is about 65 million years. That sounds about right.
A Few Other Things

I hated how the main characters all rose to their positions. Not one of them actually earned their jobs, except maybe Spock. How would you feel if you were a starship pilot and spent years working your ass off and actually spent time in the field only to see Sulu promoted ahead of you. Way to kill the moral of the entire fleet.
Not sure if you picked it up, but I wasn't the biggest Kirk fan. They really made him unlikable here. I know Kirk is supposed to be brash and arrogant, but they really overdid. He doesn't have one redeeming scene in the whole movie.
You're All With Me Now, Right?

I'm sure some of you will still disagree and that's your right as a mentally challenged member of society. I realize this was supposed to be a "fun, summer movie," but does that really exclude having a decent plot with creative action sequences? I really blame myself because all the warning signs were there in the trailer. I just foolishly ignored them. This is why I only go to the movies once a year.

Review by a guy called Matt..i thought it was spot on.
 

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Star Trek is dead. Its been dead since Gene Roddenberry died. Trek stopped being a sociopolitical look at society and the human condition and started being a weak, hackneyed sci-fi/fantasy show that catered to the lowest common denominator. By that, I mean those faggots who watch fantasy shows for the fake electronic light shows and totally implausible storylines and think Darth Vader is cool.

Rick Berman, Brannon Braga and now J.J. Abrams are repeatedly dragging Star Trek back to make money, not to say anything about the politics of our time, not to say anything about today's society, but to make a quick buck. Star Trek never was about the Klingons and the Romulans and the Cardassians and all those aliens, and spaceships fighting and phasers and photon torpedoes, it was about the United States, the Soviet Union (Praxis? Chernobyl? Come on, can it get any more obvious?!) and humans in general. It was also a more hopeful, brighter look at the future than any other I've seen.

Star Trek is dead. Please, let it rest in peace. Stop bringing this shit back.
Go fuck yourself. For one: Darth Vader IS cool. And no amount of pissy, pretentious whinning from you will make it not so.

I don't, however, disagree with your take on Abrams and the Post-roddenberry Star Trek. I also feel that the message and political social commentary between the lines is a huge part of what set Star Trek apart from other Sci-fi shows, and it definatly seems to be absent from recent Star Trek. That being said, if the political and social commentary where the only things that "real" star trek fans admired about the show, they might as well just watch the fucking news, dude.

I'm with you on leaving Kirk (and the old crew) alone. I saw the new Star Trek recently and I wasn't blown away. It's a flawed idea right from the concept stage: Let's take the crew that people feel strongly about and replace them with new people who try their best to act like the old ones. <-- Recipe for failure. Because how can you possibly be a better Kirk than the man who set up for everyone exactly who that character is. The best you can hope for is that they don't completely reinvent the character or fail too horribly at portraying them. That being said, I think this new crew of actors did a pretty good job at not making it unwatchable.

As for Star Trek as a franchise being dead? Hell no. I still like it. Even without the socio-political edge, it's still one of the best backdrops for high drama in space. And let's be real for a minute homie....painting someone half white and half black and using this sad prop as a means to convey messages about racial intolerance isn't exactly Shakespearian storytelling. A retard could have come up with that plot, you're just too blinded by your love for it to see that.
 

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I liked it, kinda.
I thought it was too much about some stupid plot idea (future badies being bad and they somehow tie into the present characters...somehow) and not enough about the characters.

What I learned:
1) Make the action make sense in so far as tying awesome 'splosions to a plot that doesn't insult.
2) Make me give a damn about the characters.


Sheesh you people are long winded about everything but the movie itself.