Warning signs missed in baby dismemberment case

KommieKat

Mao's Pet Cat
Founder
Mar 2, 2008
3,497
6
68
58
Hong Kong, hiding from the Kommies!
Warning signs missed in baby dismemberment case



SAN ANTONIO – The warning signs were there. Otty Sanchez, a schizophrenic with a history of hospitalizations, wasn't taking medication and was depressed after her son's birth, the boy's father said. A simple request seemed to set her off, alarming him and his family.

Yet, the 33-year-old woman was staying in a house where she had access to samurai swords. Child welfare officials were never called.

Instead, Sanchez's troubles became apparent to authorities when they found her before dawn Sunday screaming that she had killed her baby. Her 3 1/2-week-old son was dismembered in a scene so gruesome that police were left shaken.

"Maybe we missed" warning signs, San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said. "I don't know."

Sanchez remained hospitalized Tuesday recovering from self-inflicted cuts to her torso and an attempt to slice her own throat. The former home health care worker is charged with capital murder and is being held on $1 million bond. Calls to relatives Tuesday were not immediately returned and it was not clear whether Sanchez had an attorney.

Authorities said Sanchez tried killing herself after butchering her newborn son, Scott Wesley Buchholz-Sanchez, with a steak knife and two swords while her sister and two nieces, ages 5 and 7, slept in another room.

Sanchez told police — who described a scene so horrifying that investigators could barely speak to one another — that the devil made her kill, mutilate and eat parts of her only child.

Scott W. Buchholz, the infant's father who met Sanchez six years ago while they were studying to be pharmacists assistants, said he isn't buying it. He said although his girlfriend had postpartum depression and told him a week before the killing that she was schizophrenic, she didn't appear unstable.

He wants prosecutors to pursue the death penalty.

"She killed my son. She should burn in hell," Buchholz, 33, told The Associated Press.

Otty Sanchez's medical history is muddled. A family member said Sanchez had been undergoing psychiatric treatment and that a hospital called looking for her several months ago. Gloria Sanchez, Otty's aunt, said her niece had been "in and out of a psychiatric ward."

In May 2008, Otty Sanchez's mother, Manuela Sanchez, called police after her daughter didn't return from a trip to Austin, saying she was concerned about her daughter's safety. Manuela Sanchez told police she suspected Otty was into drugs and specifically told police she wasn't suffering from any mental issues.

Buchholz, who is himself schizophrenic and takes six anti-psychotic and anti-convulsive medications, said Otty had postpartum depression and had been going to regular counseling sessions after the birth, but refused to take prescription medication for her depression. Still, he said she seemed fine.

"She seemed like a a very caring, loving mother. She held him, she breast fed him. She did everything for him that was nice," he said.

On July 20, Sanchez was taken to the hospital for depression and released less than a day later, Buchholz said. Sanchez told him that she was schizophrenic and was going to live with her parents and sister. Sanchez was arrested at her mother's house, where police found her and the dead infant.

Five days later, on Saturday, Sanchez brought "Baby Scotty" for a visit but stormed out after he asked for a copy of the birth certificate and other documents, Buchholz said. Buchholz called 911 to report that Sanchez stormed out and drove away with the infant without properly restraining him in the car, and deputies investigated it as a disturbance.

The deputy took a report but could do little else, said Bexar County Sheriff Chief Deputy Dale Bennett.

"If this guy had given us an indication that she had postpartum depression, or mental defects she was suffering from, we may have addressed it differently," he said.

Buchholz said he may have told the deputy Sanchez was depressed, but that he wasn't sure.

While schizophrenia generally develops in men in their late teens and early 20s, women tend to develop the illness, marked by abnormal impressions of reality, later in life.

Most new mothers suffer from postpartum blues as hormones shift after a pregnancy and they're fatigued handling a new baby. But as many as one-fifth suffer from the more serious postpartum depression, which includes symptoms like despair and failing to eat or sleep.

Postpartum psychosis is far rarer, affecting only about one woman in 1,000. Women with postpartum psychosis have delusions, frequently involving religious symbols and a desire to harm their newborn, said Richard Pesikoff, a psychiatry professor at the Baylor College of Medicine.

He testified in the second trial of Andrea Yates, the high-profile case of a Houston-area mother found not guilty by reason of insanity after drowning her five children. Similar to Sanchez's claim that the devil told her to kill her son, Yates told authorities Satan was inside of her and she was trying to save her children.

"The most common part of postpartum psychosis is the delusional thinking," said Pesikoff. "Often but not always, it encompasses some type of religious thought. God is telling you to do something. The devil is telling you to do something."

Women with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are at particularly high risk for developing postpartum psychosis.

For women with schizophrenia who are not taking medication, the risk of developing psychosis is 50 percent or higher, said Lucy Puryear, another psychiatrist who was involved in the Yates case.

If a mother is diagnosed with psychosis, she should immediately be hospitalized and separated from the child, Puryear said.

Some psychiatrists will tell women with schizophrenia not to have children because of the high risks, but she said with medication and treatment, "it's possible to have a child and have a good outcome."

While Sanchez could face trial, other similar cases — including that of Yates and Dena Schlosser, a Plano woman who said she sliced off her baby's arms because she wanted to give the baby to God — have ended with juries finding the women not guilty by reason of insanity.

*End of article

"Maybe we missed" warning signs, San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said. "I don't know."

There were a number of warning signs as the article mentions:
-a schizophrenic with a history of hospitalizations
-wasn't taking medication and was depressed after her son's birth
-the devil made her kill
-postpartum depression
-schizophrenic
-recovering from self-inflicted cuts to her torso and an attempt to slice her own throat

Gee, I wander which sign they missed. Hmmmmmm.....I know.....

-TEXAS
These things only happen in Texas.........

But the most telling sign, her hair-do. Never do a woman on a bad hair day. She'll slice you up and eat you.

 

Klautermauffen

F-f-f-f-f-f-f-founderrr
Founder
Mar 11, 2008
3,846
26
68
32
Seattle
This hits home for me. My Aunt did something very similar in killing my little cousin. He was barely 2 years old. She too tried to kill herself afterwards - but obviously didn't have the guts to stab quite hard enough.

The whole "not guilty by reason of insanity" line irks me.
 

Scarlet

.
Founder
Mar 3, 2008
1,741
0
66
49
The article section.
*Note 2. If you choose an article or news feed you MUST cite a verifiable source for the material, you may link to the home source or state where it can be found so that others may research your comments about said article.

*Note 7. Any violation to the directions above will be handled by banning you from posting in that sub forum.
 

Scarlet

.
Founder
Mar 3, 2008
1,741
0
66
49
YouTube - Police: Texas Mother Decapitated Infant Son

The horrific story of Otty Sanchez, killing, decapitating, and even eating parts of her three and a half week old son, Scotty Wesley Buchholz-Sanchez, is shocking people around the world, and many are asking why and how a mother could do this to her own son.


Otty Sanchez had been diagnosed with postpartum psychosis, which is a mental illness and can occur in women following childbirth. The onset of the illness is rapid, and often unnoticed right away, as it can be confused with postpartum depression. However, postpartum psychosis is much less common, and is also sometimes referred to as 'postnatal stress disorder'.
http://www.nowpublic.com/health/postpartum-psychosis-what-made-otty-sanchez-kill-her-son
 

KommieKat

Mao's Pet Cat
Founder
Mar 2, 2008
3,497
6
68
58
Hong Kong, hiding from the Kommies!
The article section.
*Note 2. If you choose an article or news feed you MUST cite a verifiable source for the material, you may link to the home source or state where it can be found so that others may research your comments about said article.

*Note 7. Any violation to the directions above will be handled by banning you from posting in that sub forum.

Holy Moly...you got me!

My bad.

http://cbs3.com/national/otty.sanchez.baby.2.1105372.html

http://www.valleymorningstar.com/news/san-56781-antonio-signs.html
 

Titty

Proud White Boy
Founder
Mar 2, 2008
1,243
38
78
46
Where the sun doesn't shine
This story literally brought tears to my eyes. I fail to comprehend how humans can harm each other--especially their own offspring--in such a manner. These fucking people make me sick.

Everyone who knew this cunt is partially responsible. She surely exhibited irrational behavior well prior to these events. Failure to heed warnings and recognize obvious warning signs is tantamount to taking part.

Kill the bitch. Eradicate her entire lineage.
 

Unhappy Camper

Hells yeah
Founder
Mar 10, 2008
5,012
25
178
Fayettenam Area, NC
And I'm called crazy for my full support of licensing and controlling procreation.

We test folks before we allow them to own a legal handgun, we test to operate a vehicle, we have laws that allow ANY person to be locked away for up to 48 hours if they exhibit signs of social and mental imbalance etc, etc , etc ....

Yet, ANY woman that is able to get pregnant is allowed to do so, regardless of her mental or financial stability.

Why is it ok for a person that is a fucking shitbag of a human being to have the privilege of the most important task on the planet?

Society is doomed, we are racing toward the abyss ... hopefully we will all be obliterated in a white hot vaporizing flash of comet impact or alien bug people anal raping rampages.

Fucking humans .. I hate us all.
 

Scarlet

.
Founder
Mar 3, 2008
1,741
0
66
49
A woman can give birth without showing any prior signs of mental instability.
After birth she may show signs of post natal depression or post natal psychoses...but if she is suffering from either, she WILL show signs.
This woman in question is undoubtably suffering from post natal psychoses...and she was legally insane at the time of killing her infant.
Somebody MUST have seen signs of her becoming unwell...and they should also be held accountable.
 

SlimSkeeter

Guest
^^^ Brittney Spears did that, didn't she? I forget if it was her or another.


In any case, the signs were there. Nobody stepped up to bat, though. Its sick and its horrid and it make want to vomit, except I have nothing left to vomit.
 

Klautermauffen

F-f-f-f-f-f-f-founderrr
Founder
Mar 11, 2008
3,846
26
68
32
Seattle
^^^ Brittney Spears did that, didn't she?
Meh, I s'pose I don't keep up with the gossip column like *cough* some people..

That's pretty crazy though. I've been pretty upset and have left in whirl of emotions MANY times from several different places. Sometimes, the time it took to put my child(ren) in the car properly afforded whoever was being a jerk the time to get in my way/bitch some more/get in the car with me.. But I'd never go back and do it differently.

Crazy crazy thoughts go through a frantic new mom's mind - but a quick reality check solves a lot. Do I really want to chance some freak thing happening and one of my children being hurt because I was being a mess? How will THAT leave me feeling?

So... that's to say... HELL YEAH there were signs! Argh. And as for Britney? Baby daddy has sole custody of his kids, right? I'm pretty sure she has no power as their mother.

It baffles me that the father of this little boy kept commenting that she seemed fine. She was obviously acting out on several occasions. Acting out is ALWAYS a cry for help.


Heh. Where's the olden days where we could drag her through the streets, burn off her toes, let the bums rape her... and then "put her on trial" and kill her?!

..I'm in an evil mood.
 

Saucy

________________
Founder
Mar 11, 2008
255
0
16
32
San Antonio, TX
I live in San Antonio. I don't know how anybody could do it. Chances are she might go free just because she's "crazy".

Also, some of the cops needed therapy after seeing the baby. Crazy thing is these people are our neighbors.
 

Kashmir

Kiss my ass
Jan 30, 2010
205
0
16
43
omg :( Fucking Monster! It's when i read things like this that im all for death penalty.

poor little baby :(

 

Syenite

Flying squirrel vagina
Founder
Oct 23, 2013
582
37
28
Redneckville, Canada.
It seems to me that plenty of people noticed, it was just another case of people noticing and not saying anything. It's really sad that a poor newborn had to pay for it.

In my opinion the father is pretty damn close to being just as responsible for that child's death as the mother. It is well known that some mother's suffer severely from postpartum and may try to hurt their infants. The fact that she told him she was schizo, and that he knew she had postpartum and STILL left her alone with the child makes him equally responsible in my eyes. You'd have to be crazy to do something like that to your own child. There's no way you couldn't be.

The whole "not guilty by reason of insanity" line irks me.
It irritates me as well. Though I do understand that people do things like that because they're crazy, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't still be held responsible for their crimes in some way. As far as I'm concerned, someone like that, who won't take their medication is of no use to society. They should not be hospitalized, they should not be supported by the rest of society. They should be brought up to the chopping block and done away with.
 

SlimSkeeter

Guest
^^^ *whistles*...

not that I disagree....

I can't even re-read that article without wanting to go all "Hulk Smash!!!"